Dr. Suess, Lifelong Leftist Jewish Propagandist - Anti-German (WW2), CultMarx Shill (FTN Podcast + Transcript)

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We want to take a look, another look at history. More recent U.S. children's literary history, perhaps.

Yeah, well, so, Tony, just grease the skids on this. So we talked about McDonald's on the midweek show.

We had this in bottom of the stack forever about the creators behind the Happy Meal. And I highly recommend, you know, go sign up for the paywall if you're not a paywall. So we talked about this on the midweek show about how the creator of McDonald's Happy Meal, not just the creator of it, but also the artwork for the original box. Were were the usual suspects, both of whom were Jewish. And we are talking about how this combination of of the free toys with the fast food and the and the the way that this is marketed is is, you know, a hugely contributing factor to childhood obesity and things like that. And we also talked about Arby's. I saw some guy in the comments was saying that he thought Arby's stood for roast beef. I thought that, too, until we discovered that Arby's actually stands for Raffaelle Brothers who are both Jewish. And then we talked a lot about Arby's as well. But we're talking about illustrator's, childhood illustrator's and how this this Jewish illustrator was chosen for the original box, for the Happy Meal to make it attractive for kids. This guy who had won a lot of awards, you know, put these colorful images that children are familiar with on a box, give them a free toy, and they're going to be hooked on Big Bird burgers, fries and syrupy cola drinks for life.

And I think we sort of outloud wondered whether or not Dr. Seuss. Because I'd never really given it any thought what his background was, what what's the deal with this guy? And we have I've seen people, some people claiming that he's Jewish, other people claiming that he's not. And it turned out that the the portal of the rabbit hole was finding out that he had been he had been declared an honorary Jew by the mayor of Jerusalem at one point. And I was just like, holy shit, there's a lot of where there's smoke, there's fire at James. I mean, this guy has quite the background.

And the ensuing research into this into doctors, his background just blew my fucking mind. I'm sure other people have talked about this. I'm sure this has come up elsewhere in our circles. Other people seem to know about this. Other people seem to have no idea. I was I was thunderstruck by Dr. Seuss. Right. And I like it all makes sense now when you see how hard Dr. Seuss stuff is pushed, because the illustrations aren't really particularly that good anyway.

And then it's sort of like, oh, it's not because there's anything talented about this. Well, talented at subversion, I suppose, but nothing really good and wholesome about the books. It's actually kind of subversive, isn't it?

Yes. As he would describe of himself, subversive as hell. Not a lot of talent. A lot of talent.

Did he say Sayres of his L.

He described him, dude, just get ready because. Yes, the the amount. Yes. Actually. So but what's important is also understand. Yes. Understanding why he is promoted so heavily in the modern era. But also why he is anything other than just a random cartoonist from the nineteen forties. Because there were a lot of people drawing little cartoons for newspapers and magazines and what have you at the time.

And not all of them went on to become these the the definitive children's story book author. It's a very good reason why Dr. Seuss, Mr. Geisel was was chosen for this role. And as we'll find out. Yes. Not biologically Jewish, but he did everything he could to become one. He was born and raised in Springfield, Massachusetts. His father was a brewer and later became a public park supervisor after the brewery closed due to prohibition and the family was of German descent. And this is when you start to see him, him, you know, sort of aping the talking points of those in power. He claims that he and his sister experienced anti German prejudice from other children following the outbreak of World War One in 1914. Of course, there were so many people of German descent in in the United States at the time.

I find that story kind of hard to believe. Well, even.

But even if it's true, though, like let's just say for for example, that it's true, we know that it's a common response by some people in which is why antiwhite rhetoric is employed. And it is so, in fact, is so effective is that, yes, it does end up radicalizing some people. But the response from others tends to be a need to prove how totally not racist you are. So when whites are called racist, what is the result? They like adopt black children as babies and, you know, proudly allow their daughters to be married. To blacks or in the case of. What was that girl's name? John. The John Mud victim. I mean, the taco dad. Molly to.

Like, you will not call me a racist. You know, it's like. Yeah, in though in the in the Stanley family had this issue as well. So it does seem actually plausible that maybe if maybe if Keisel was subjected to anti German press prejudice, his reaction is to show, like, how totally not racist he is. And not just that the anti German predator Petrak prejudice may have taken the form of. You. We don't like you because you're German and it's probably because you don't like Jews. And this guy spent the rest of his natural existence showing just how much they were wrong. And it's just yeah, it's like it really I don't know. You can entertain either theory, but I'm talking about what we know, like this guy. I had no idea. But you just have to look at what he was doing before he became a popular kids book author, whatever.

This is what he was employed to do during World War Two, right?

Right. Yeah. This was his role this week. He was selected for this role and he performed well during this test. And he was rewarded afterwards. He was not a successful illustrator before World War Two. He was a guy who had a degree in literature from Dartmouth, then went on to study at Oxford and was was not successful. Right. He was having trouble getting any of his manuscripts published. He couldn't get his children's books published. He was going nowhere. It was it was a dead end role for him. And so, too, to put food on the table. He was a writer for this or maybe to put food on the table or maybe because he was drawn to this. You have to decide he was drawn to this this New York magazine p.m. and there is no definitive is no absolute answer on what that stands for. But the P.M., it was a leftist newspaper. And their contributors included people like Irving Haberman, Dan Israel, Julius Skippy Edelman and Leo leave cheeses, journalists. Yeah, it just gets just getting started. Journalist I.F. Stone was the paper's Washington correspondent. He published an award winning series on European Jewish refugees attempting to run the British blockade to reach Palestine, which was collected and published as the underground to Palestine. There are other staff included theater critic Louis Kronenberger and film critic Cecilia Agar. So in the midst of World War Two, there was this German guy in in in this mill, you and you. Yet to prove his prove his anti-racism chops, he wow. He became one of the most one of the most virulent anti German antiwhite cartoonists one could imagine.

Yeah, you got to look at the cartoon, because I didn't I've never I had never seen these before.

But it just seems like an endless stream of cartoons that he did attacking Adolf Hitler, attacking the America first movement, attacking Lavonne, all of France or one of the famous ones of these trees in its Dr Seuss, like you don't even have like him for somebody showed you this and didn't tell you is Dr. Seuss you immediately know who did this because he even has Uncle Sam in a number of different iterations dressed up as a snitch, which we're going to get into here as well.

The Snitches cartoon, everybody's familiar with that as an allegory for Nazis and Jews.

I'm sure you're already realizing the star on the belly. It's like, wow, it's all clicking into place.

But he was very pro FDR, but pro FDR in the sense of attacking the isolationists in the America the actual America first movement, not the one that has been has been perverted by by used and perverted by Donald Trump, but who remember when Trump made America first one of his slogans and how the oil saying was heard around the world and then quickly subsided as they realized that it was just they were he was appropriating it and making it gay. And now anybody who returns to America first as as a rallying point, it's been gayed up by Trump. Prior to that, it was unmolested and it was actually representative of people who didn't want to go to World War Two. We've talked about on the show before how World War two is not was not popular. Getting involved in that fight was not popular. And, you know, with Dr. Seuss, who's not a doctor at all, was turned on to attacking Father Copelin. He was attacking Charles Lindbergh. He's attacking anybody who stood in the way of the U.S. rolling right into Europe and destroying Adolf Hitler and basically all of Europe with it. And so, yeah, what a great tool of the establishment here, James.

Yeah. And you need to you do need to go look up these cartoons. And to see to see exactly what he was doing. And you're right. You would think if you did not know the time and place in which Dr Seuss lived or. History, you would think, oh, this is someone copying his his art style. But no, this is actually him. You know, there's the one with Hitler, a lynching Jews on on a tree and a hanging. And there's the one that. Well, I have to. Well, actually, Dr. Seuss here, Jeyes, he's actually not wrong here with the uncles that Uncle Sam's neach with the sign hanging from his beak. This is I am part Jewish in the in the gallows with a public notice. It says this bird is possessed by an evil demon. Well, as signed by Sheriff Charles Lindbergh. Like this. Oh, not wrong.

There's always an element of truth in in a lot of what they do as we know. But yeah, I mean, these this this artwork is just. Yeah. You just got to go look it up. He got to do it. And yeah, it's it's incredible that that he did this. And yeah. You don't like this. My visceral react is that no child in America or in any other part of the world should ever see a Dr. Seuss book ever again, because it's not just the propaganda from World War two. And then World War Two is over. Yay! Victory. We beat. We beat Adolf Hitler, the evil Nazi. And now we're gonna move on to perfectly innocent, totally benign and banal children's book that have no meaning whatsoever. He's just a good artist, right. James, he writes a good story about people. Oh, yeah. Don't you love the Grinch and The Lorax and the Cat in the Hat? Aren't they just great stories that all children grow to know and love and recite from memory? It's just like, oh, my God.

Well, yeah, you may not think that anybody should and should view his illustrations and read stories. And I would happen to agree with you. But some people disagreed with that. Some people, in fact, loved this auditioning. He did over dozens and dozens, I believe, hundreds of anti Hitler A.I., anti-American first cartoons. And this guy who was struggling to sell a manuscript, couldn't get it, couldn't get a regular writing gig. Other than this cartooning job at the end of the war, he's approached by Random House Publishing, which was founded by Donald Simon Klopfer, a Jew, and Bennett CERT, a Jew. And he gets this blockbuster deal. All of a sudden after World War Two to write, illustrate and publish children's books. And this guy, Klopfer, you know, he say, OK, sure, he's Jewish. No, this guy was not just Jewish. He was on the American Council for Judaism and actually resigned from the American Council on Judaism after a statement was issued that he found to be repugnant after Rabbi Elmer Berger, the executive director of the group, declared that Israel was engaged in aggression in the Middle East during the these six days war. And Klopfer found this so objectionable that he actually resigned in protest.

And then during the 50s, he got to promote a stance like no longer write is like the one anti Zionist Jew and like the entire country at this time. This is the one guy, right.

Right. Yeah. In the 60s. Oh, yeah, especially. And so during the 50s, he was still doing cartooning. But he got a promotion and he was cartooning for a publication called Redbook Magazine, which was published first in 1983 as the Red Book, illustrated by Steamer Rosen, Rosenthal and Eckstein, a firm of Chicago retail merchants. So suddenly, Dr. Seuss gets his two big breaks after the war from two incredibly Jewish. One hundred percent Jewish through and through company as well.

And then this guy one other one other thing. This this A.I., A.I., fascist, anti-racist propaganda that he did. This wasn't just in the midst of World War Two. He was still doing this stuff in the mid 50s and early 60s, like he was still like showing what a good Shabbos he was and continued to to pump this stuff because they were they had to keep this going.

I mean, this didn't just end in 1945. Like, this continued on and on and on and on. And then they you know, as they took control of more institutions, especially with, you know, the deep dive we did on the student loans and making making that a priority takeover of academia.

It obviously became important for him to start work, for them to have him start writing children's books, because as I understand this, there is a decided delineation between the work that he did prior to writing these children's books and what he was doing during the war.

I mean, correct me if I'm wrong, but he was not a children's cartoonist until that was what he started doing and became doing that full time. It's not like you can go back into the 1940s and find the kids books that Seuss wrote. It's like, no, that only happened once. That became the direction that he trended in. So that's kind of interesting thing to point out as well.

Yeah, I know he had dabbled in illustration, but like, this guy had a Dartmouth degree, right? He was not he was not just some some like Rube that wrote only kids books. This guy is well educated and had tried to make it as a regular author first. But it was after they saw how powerful his his works were in World War Two, that they chose him as an emissary to create this propaganda for children going on into the system. And that's what he did.

What have we? What have we always been told about the evil Nazi propaganda? That would just get inside your mind and twist things up and make you think things that weren't right? It's like it's all projection. It's all now, certainly that the Nazis had great pop propaganda. But look what look what they do. Look what they did in the United States. This propaganda was so good that you didn't even know growing up Dr. Seuss. It's like, oh, this is a beloved children's author. Like. But no, it's actually some of the most insidious propaganda that's that's ever existed in this regard.

Yeah, you didn't know that when you're reading The Cat in the Hat comes back as a kid, that this is actually an allegory because the cat is trying to clean up a mess and he can't do it himself. So he has to bring in his friends from all over the world. This is, of course, representing internationalism, triumphing over nationalism and isolationism. Horton hears a who is anti fascist, a rejection of conformity. Yertle the Turtle is meant to symbolize Hitler overthrown because he oppressed people. And one of the most egregious examples is the snitches, which was a direct and explicit rejection of anti-Semitism. The moral lesson. This is the one where some snitches have the green stars, the green six pointed stars on their bellies. Some don't. And then someone comes to town and has a machine that will put stars on them three dollars and take them off three dollars. And they keep going through and through.

It's ten. Eventually they're off for ten dollars. I thought, Sylvester, monkey brain, whatever the guy's name is with the machine, like his prices keep increasing. That's the element of truth. It's like you have this guy show up to solve a problem. Like that's another element of this, which is kind of funny is that you have this guy show up to solve this problem for these snitches and he's of a different race. He looks nothing like them at all. And he's there with his machine and he's like, you know, I'll all out of I'll put a star in your belly for three dollars. Oh, you know, everybody has a star now. That's a problem. So the people that want the star removed, it's now ten dollars and the prices keep increasing and it keeps going and going and going. And then it says at the end of like there's a video of, you know, somebody. NARRATOR Reading the book once it says in the book, like once once this Sylvester Monkeyface, whatever has once the snitches have run out of money and have no more money to spend. And they realize how silly this is, this guy just packs up and leaves town and it's like, wow. So that's so amazing that it's like, who is this guy that looks like nobody else in this story comes in, sells them a bunch of useless shit like how the star take away a star.

Do this. Do that, you know, and he is actually preying on the fact that these people are divided, in fact, dividing them in order to sell a product to them, creating a kosher dialectic out of the snitches. And then once he's taken all the money, he packs up and leaves town. And, you know, it's like. And then the end, the moral of the story is like, yeah, the snitches all learn to just live together. And everything was fine. And they realized that stars weren't really important, no matter. They're all speeches, no matter what they are and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. But it's like none of this stuff really dawns on you. But as a kid, this is what is seeded into your head that. Yeah. Like, everybody's the same. This is where all this this pathology comes from. And I'm thinking Dr. Seuss. I think he should just be renamed Dr. Semite. I mean, that's really what he is. He's just Dr. Semite because that's what he is like. Yeah. It's like I'm gonna I'm gonna have a visceral react, I think, to whenever I see a Dr. Seuss book. And they're everywhere. They're all over the place. Yeah. The Lorax is another one. This is one of Seuss's deceptively whimsical characters who delivers a powerful ode to the virtues of tikkun olam, healing the world.

Apparently, there's this woman who who wrote some Jew, wrote an article about how she loves reading her Jewish son, Green Eggs and Ham. Even though ham is like the juicers Jews, Jews love this stuff so much. Leverne put up with the ham in the book, I guess. But she said that after her son read The Lorax like he wanted to go around cleaning, cleaning up his neighborhood because The Lorax has like tikkun olam in it. And then there's the butter battle book, which I wasn't even familiar with. This must have been maybe one that was slick, too, on the nose, but it was written during the Cold War and tells the tale of the Zook's and the UK's whose argument about how to bread, butter, bread quickly turns out turns into an all out war. Apparently, like the Zook's are like the bottom Buttars and the UK's of the top Buttars.

It's like, well, top or bar. It's like, what is this even. This is stupid. It's such. It's so stupid and just so on the nose that this is probably why. But it was an allegory for Israel and Palestine.

That was another that was another thing in this whole situation. But yeah, you were aware of the Japanese and interment cartoons that he had done now in revisionism.

Jews have said, well, Dr Semite wasn't perfect. I mean, he he did have his his failings. But the reality is, is back then and they'll even admit in Gisele's circles, like this was a popular sentiment. Why was it popular? Who did the Japanese internment camps in the United States? Those were Jews. And that's maybe that's why. Who's that? Who's that gay.

That gay Japanese guy who is always attacking Trump on Twitter. And he was always like big in the Japanese internment stuff like he.

George Takai. Is that it? Yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah, he seems to have disappeared. It's like, yeah, guy, we're not talking about Japanese internment camps anymore. So just shut the fuck up. This will. Yes.

So this thing about being racist Asians. This actually came up four or five years ago now. And there was this effort among these recently WOAK and recently empowered college yesterday W types the Asians specifically to cancel Dr Seuss. And I remember this being a thing that came up quickly but then very quickly went away.

Yeah. Right. I know. You know, because her stand that all of his books are allegories to make children like be anti-racist and love Jews. Yeah. Just stop.

Yeah. And you want a perfect example of the the kosher license to be racist being given and taken away as they see fit. Look at Dr. Seuss's cartoons in favor of Japanese internment. This was the guy that was was kvetching and clutching pearls about. About the treatment of Jews in Germany. Meanwhile, he was. Yeah. Drawing the foom and shoes and squinty eyes and drawing, you know, Japs getting kicked around by by brave, bold Americans like. Yeah. So funny. How funny. How it'd be like that. And he described himself well, one during the Cold War. He he frequently talked about how the House un-American Activities Committee was more threatening to American freedom and then communism. Yeah. And he spoke of the need to to maintain the US's lifeline to Stalin and the USSR, who he depicted during World War Two as a porter carrying our war load.

So, yeah. And then his wife dies.

And first thing he does a year later is marry a Jew, Audrey Diamond, and then, God, she's the number two diamond. She is.

She is indeed. And then later in life, he was Spook's speaking pretty openly about what he did, what the goal of his illustration was, not to tell cute stories to kids and that and. Now he said, quote, Kids can see a moral coming a mile off. He said that there is an inherent moral in any story. And then remarked that he was subversive as hell, end quote.

Yeah. And it's kind of funny. I didn't know this either.

But in Horton hears a who. There's the the line. A person's a person no matter how small. And this this was adopted. I think I have vague recollection of this about this being adopted by the pro-life movement, which you would think if Dr. Samite was this, you know, wonderful kids author who cared about, you know, kids and good morals and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. That he would have no problem at all with this line from his book being appropriated in the name of a just cause. But no.

Audrey Diamond objected to the use and apparently it was her threat to sue. I guess in the 80s, he thought, oh, yeah, sue them for doing this as well.

Yeah, the good the good. Dr. Seuss himself threatened to sue this anti-abortion group for using the phrase on some of their stationery.

And yet, Audrey, Audrey Diamond came out and said, oh, God, I don't like it when people hijack Dr. Seuss characters to to politicize them. Oh, you know, God forbid anybody politicize these Dr. Seuss characters. And the point isn't politicization. Obviously, the point is using these for anything other than antiwhite anti fascist indoctrination and propaganda. And that's all this stuff is. And you see, if you if you've been around like a kid's school library or or whatever, and this was starting when I was in school, but it has reached a fever pitch. Now, the national what is it, the NEA, these education institutions. They are fully on board with Dr. Seuss. I think there's a Dr. Seuss month, in fact. Oh, yeah. Where it's like assigned reading, where you have to read the Dr. Seuss books. And I used to think, OK, this stuff is just stupid and like, the rhymes are kind of dumb. And, you know, I'll signal here. I was at the reading level too high for Dr. Seuss and I was in school. But you read this. I feel like this is dumb. But then you realize what it's really about. It's not about teaching you how to rhyme. Redfish, bluefish, one fish, two fish, six million fish. It's about teaching you these moral lessons. And that's why they've gone so in on this. And that's why you have articles you took in Dr. Seuss Jewish, and you will be inundated with articles like Seven Jewish Facts about Green Eggs and Ham, for example.

Yeah, yeah. It's it's it's pretty bad. And yeah, like I said, I'm just going to have a visceral react to this from now on. But yeah, people are wondering like, well, how did you guys end up from from, you know, the kosher dialectic of the Tea Party and Occupy Wall Street and coronavirus to chai arms and whatever to Dr. Seuss. It's like, well, that's how because we've been meaning to talk about the Happy Meal for like weeks and weeks and weeks and.

And then. Yeah. Dr. Seuss came up. So, yeah. Quite the rabbit hole. I'm sure a lot of people knew about this, but yeah. I mean, there's no shortage of books that need to be burned now. Hi, James.

I was just going to say, you know, and grillings. Drilling once again becomes an option. Yeah, you find these books a dime a dozen at the several in place.

Yeah, it's a look at the bright side. You know, if we if we if we if we end up without any ability to heat your home, those Dr. Samite books are really toastie means of burning up that biomass. Right.

They they give them away for free in most schools. They're they're begging people to take them and read them to their kids. So. Yeah. Good alternative to the wood pellets. How do we say. Let's just let's do this. Let's send all of our Dr. Seuss books to England instead of the wood pellets being cut down in the forests.

I think we need an alternative ending to the snitches where the snitches like after one iteration of having stars printed and removed from their stomachs, just like turn on Sylvester Monkey Brain and like start packing him on to a cattle car because that would be the appropriate reaction. But instead, these snitches are just like running around and like like frantically like handing out shackles. And he's like, thank you. Thank you. Thank you. As they stuffed shackles into a big bin. And it's just like, yeah, it's like this is you know, it's they want to make it seem like an allegory about the stars. And it's like, no, the snitches are actually I think the snitches are actually just races that are not Jewish.

The Jews are trying to divide and that's Sylvestre or whatever his name is, that that's actually the Jew. And that story comes in town and does its bit. And then he leaves, takes all the money.

And that's kind of the funny thing is that I don't think that was intentional.

I think it was still intended to teach a rest racial lesson. But there again, there is an element of truth there. And I think the alternative end ending there would actually be more appropriate where teachers actually catch on to what's being done to them and react. I have a visceral react to this guy and his machine and in everything else, it's kind of funny.

Yeah. The only way he could have a better is if the if he said, oh, you don't have any money. Well, I just say yes and you'll pay me back over over 300 easy installments. Twenty 24 percent API.

He's he has a friend who comes into town and is like one of those like machines in a truck that like unpacks itself. And it's just like a federal lending facility. That's the money tree. Exactly. Yeah. My God. Yeah. Well, that's about all we have. Hope everybody enjoyed the show, as always. See you guys sometime in the middle. We know some time in the week. We'll catch you guys. All right.

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