Eastern Europe's Mass Refusal to Take in Immigrants

"51 percent of Poles support leaving the EU if that’s the only way to stop an influx of Muslims."

Tue, Sep 12, 2017 | 2515 Comments
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This is a transcript of a segment from John Derbyshire's highly acclaimed and hugely popular podcast - Radio Derb - , a weekly conservative run-down of political events, with a focus on the immigration crisis in the US and Europe. It can be easily listened to on computer or via smartphone app.

Derbyshire is a prominent conservative American political columnist, formerly of the National Review, now with Vdare.com.

Russia Insider listens every week, and recommends it highly, along with the excellent Vdare.com website which has the same focus.

In this segment, Derbyshire comments on Eastern European attitudes to taking in immigrants (uniformly hostile), and contrasts it to the opposite view in the Cult-Marx West.

Derbyshire working the hustings


This has big implications for Russia's role in Eastern Europe, because these conservative majorities in the East are natural allies of Russia, which shares their attitudes towards immigration - as evidenced in the pro-Russian stance of the Hungarian parties.

The deeper the West digs itself into its suicidal immigration dead-end, the more it will alienate the East - pushing Russia and Eastern Europe together.


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The same fault line, between globalists and nationalists, is also evident over in Europe. Last week saw a widening of the gulf between the spineless, suicidal Western Europeans and those Eastern-bloc nations determined to maintain their demographic stability in the face of mass invasions from Africa and the Middle East.

What happened last week was, the European Court of Justice, which is a sort of Supreme Court for the European Union, ruled that two of those Eastern bloc nations, Hungary and Slovakia, have to take in quota numbers of the illegal aliens who have been flooding into Europe since the great surge of two years ago.

This dispute in fact goes back just two years this month, to September 2015, the height of that crisis. There was an EU summit meeting at which it was decided that 160,000 illegals from Greece and Italy would be shared around the 28 EU member states.

Several Eastern countries have just refused to take their quotas. Poland, for example, was given a quota of six thousand and some. Total admitted so far: zero. Hungary’s quota was thirteen hundred. Total admitted so far: zero. Slovakia’s quota was a mere nine hundred. Total admitted: zero.

Czechia has been a tad less delinquent. Their quota was 27 hundred: they’ve admitted twelve.

Not twelve hundred; just twelve.

Hungary and Slovakia, with support from Poland, which has had a change to a more nationalist government since that summit, brought a complaint to the Court of Justice arguing that the quota agreement was not properly decided. That’s the complaint the Court rejected this week.

Responding to this week’s ruling, the East Europeans are defiant, the Hungarians most of all. The court decision was, said that country’s foreign minister, “outrageous and irresponsible” and “endangers the future and security of Europe as a whole.” “Politics raped European law,” he thundered to reporters in Budapest. [Hungary and Slovakia defiant after EU court rebuke, by Eszter Zalan, EUObserver, September 5, 2017]

There’s an element of kabuki about this. Because of their forty-year subjugation under the previous transnationalist scourge, Soviet Communism, the East European countries are still economically behind their Western neighbors in the Union, so that not many of the illegals actually want to go there. Their preferred destinations are the big old welfare democracies of northwest Europe and Scandinavia.

Most of the two hundred-odd assigned by quota to the Baltic republics — Lithuania, Latvia, and Estonia — for example have since decamped to Germany. [Resettled in the Baltics, refugees flee for wealthier lands, By Andrius Sytas and Gederts Gelzis, Reuters, November 28, 2016.]

Still, this is a key fault line in the worldwide ideological struggle between nationalism and globalism. Their governments’ defiance of the EU is popular with East Europeans, even though these countries are big beneficiaries of EU subsidies. Poland is the biggest beneficiary of regional aid in the EU; yet an opinion poll conducted in June this year found that 51 percent of Poles support leaving the EU if that’s the only way to stop an influx of Muslims. [Poles Value Denying Muslim Refugees Over Being in EU, Poll Shows, By Marek Strzelecki, Bloomberg, July 5, 2017]

Even more striking, younger Poles — in the 18-24 age group — are more anti-EU than Poles in general. The word “Polexit” has already been coined. [Is there any prospect of ‘Polexit’?by Aleks Szczerbiak, Polish Politics Blog, September 7, 2017]

Similarly in Hungary, the second biggest and most influential country in the group. Hungary has elections coming up next year, and Prime Minister Viktor Orbán’s Fidesz party, which is strongly nationalist, was polling at 53 percent in July. Polling second at 21 percent was Jobbik—which is even more nationalist.

There is just not much of a market for transnationalist globalism in East Europe—even though these countries are net beneficiaries of EU aid programs.

I know, I know: these are small, distant countries whose concerns seem remote from our own. Or as British Prime Minister Neville Chamberlain described what was then Czechoslovakia in 1938: “a faraway land of which we know little.”

How’d that work out, Neville?

Globalism and nationalism are at war, though, and one of the key fronts is Europe. I wish strength to the East Europeans, and firmness in their resolve to keep themselves as distinct nations.

By paying attention to their struggle, perhaps we can learn something that will help in our own.


2010-12-24dl[1]John Derbyshire [email him] writes an incredible amount on all sorts of subjects for all kinds of outlets. (This no longer includes National Review, whose editors had some kind of tantrum and fired him. ) He is the author of We Are Doomed: Reclaiming Conservative Pessimism and several other books.  He has had two books published by  VDARE.com com: FROM THE DISSIDENT RIGHT(also available in Kindle) and  FROM THE DISSIDENT RIGHT II: ESSAYS 2013.

For years he’s been podcasting at Radio Derb, now available at VDARE.com for no charge.His writings are archived at JohnDerbyshire.com.

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